JVM Languages Google Group

Want Some New Developers For Your Language?

benjamin.john.ev...@googlemail.com (Ben Evans) — Sat, 13 mar 2010 18:52:09 UT

Hi,
I'm one of the organizers for an event called Open Source Jumpstart (
[link]) - which is an 1-day event to introduce students and
recent graduates to Open Source / Free Software development, and enable them
to do some useful work (and see it committed) by the end of the event.
We are completely full for student participants (and have a waitlist of 50%

Re: benchmarks for Computer Language / Shootout Game?

igo...@yahoo.com (Isaac Gouy) — Tue, 09 mar 2010 05:24:03 UT

To be considerate, this is probably not the right place for that
conversation, there's a link to a more appropriate discussion forum
here - [link]

Re: benchmarks for Computer Language / Shootout Game?

tgdav...@gmail.com (Tom Davies) — Tue, 09 mar 2010 05:04:04 UT

Why did the shootout start over?

Re: benchmarks for Computer Language / Shootout Game?

igo...@yahoo.com (Isaac Gouy) — Mon, 08 mar 2010 17:52:21 UT

Yes, that's right.
There are those 10 haskellesque CAL programs -
[link]

Re: benchmarks for Computer Language / Shootout Game?

tgdav...@gmail.com (Tom Davies) — Sun, 07 mar 2010 11:33:50 UT

There are implementations for CAL here:
[link]
I think these may be for an older version of the benchmark -- they
don't appear on the shootout web site any more.
Tom

Re: benchmarks for Computer Language / Shootout Game?

igo...@yahoo.com (Isaac Gouy) — Thu, 04 mar 2010 22:46:39 UT

I wonder how you think that's different from - "that's odd, the Scala
code must be written without performance in mind - it should always be
possible to write Java-like Scala." ?

Re: [jvm-l] Re: benchmarks for Computer Language / Shootout Game?

james...@gmail.com (James Iry) — Thu, 04 mar 2010 17:37:45 UT

There are lies, damn lies, and then there are benchmarks.
Awhile ago I looked into the Shootout and saw that Java was significantly
outperforming Scala on a numerical problem (pidigits). I thought, "that's
odd, the Scala code must be written without performance in mind - it should
always be possible to write Java-like Scala." So I opened up the Scala

Re: benchmarks for Computer Language / Shootout Game?

igo...@yahoo.com (Isaac Gouy) — Thu, 04 mar 2010 16:49:10 UT

-snip-
-snip-
I remember being told something similar but their useful was your
useless and their useless was your useful :-)

Re: [jvm-l] benchmarks for Computer Language / Shootout Game?

head...@headius.com (Charles Oliver Nutter) — Thu, 04 mar 2010 08:03:42 UT

You want an order of magnitude? I'll give you an order of magnitude! I
just need the heart of an unborn satyr, the eye of a nebula crab, and
three hairs from the back of a Gosling. You'll get your order of
magnitude...and I'll exact my price later.
Seriously though...order of magnitude for what? Today I investigated a

Re: benchmarks for Computer Language / Shootout Game?

igo...@yahoo.com (Isaac Gouy) — Thu, 04 mar 2010 07:43:59 UT

[link]

benchmarks for Computer Language / Shootout Game?

p...@bothner.com (Per Bothner) — Thu, 04 mar 2010 05:45:38 UT

At [link] aka "The Computer Language
Benchmarks Game" there are solutions and performance numbers for
13 problems in various programming languages. The JVM languages
are Java, Scala, and JRuby. I've written Kawa versions for
most of the programs. Does anyone have implementations for other

Re: [jvm-l] Debugger for Bytecode ?

logic...@gmail.com (dmiles@users.sourceforge.net) — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 07:25:15 UT

My favorite is [link]
Though it gets the line numbers wrong.. And it is not to great for
stepping through.
But as a Java programmer it is nice to see the generated code in java
source form.
Since I can get the function name of the frame stack (the nomral one

Debugger for Bytecode ?

tver...@gmail.com (Tim Vernum) — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 03:16:28 UT

Can anyone recommend a debugger that can do a decent job with
generated bytecode?
I've tried
eclipse (with each of these plugins
[link],
[link])
NetBeans
AdaptJ StackTrace
but none of them are doing anything sufficiently useful for me.

SISC Scheme on Android's Dalvik VM

calb...@neomantic.com (Chad A.) — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:13:25 UT

Hi,
If anyone is interested, I just wanted to let the JVM languages
community know that I managed to get one Java implementation of
Scheme, SISC Scheme, to run on Android's Dalvik's VM. It has some
problems. But I managed to invoke an interactive REPL that allowed me
to instantiate and manipulate some of the Java classes that ship with

Re: [jvm-l] Equivalent of JSR#202 for upcoming Java 1.7

fo...@x9c.fr (forum@x9c.fr) — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:35:52 UT

Le 4 févr. 2010 à 20:58, Rémi Forax a écrit :
Thanks a lot for the pointers!
Does the aforementioned list mean that project Coin will not introduce modifications
to the class file format?
Kind regards,
Xavier Clerc