On 21 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>This might be a silly question but here it goes.... >I gave my wife the 1st season of Ghost Whisperer for Xmas, and she >really liked it. She talked me into watching it, though I'd prefer to >watch The Shield. I love ghost stories, I just didn't know if I'd like >the GW. >Anyway, Melinda on GW sees the ghosts as clearly as she sees normal >people. I wonder if anyone in this newsgroup has that gift...if so do >people that see ghosts see them that clearly. Are they able to have >conversations like Melinda does with them? >(Personally i think it would be very frightening to be able to see dead >people all of the time unless I could somehow 'turn it off' at times >so I wouldn't)
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I was just thinking about this very subject this morning...
Millions of people around the world and down through history and prehistory have seen ghosts take many forms, human, and inhuman, orbs, apparitions, odors, touching, tapping, sounds, voices, breathing, poltergeists, warnings, etc. You name it, it's a very common occurance. And like Edgar Cayce said, any one can do it. Anyone can be psychic, clairvoyant, etc., and anyone can be a ghost--a very adept ghost with much practice.
Before continuing, be aware that the majority of people who post in this group are antichrists who apparently read here for the sole purpose of ineptly criticizing & ineffectively mocking everything & everyone who their feeble brains can't possibly comprehend. I don't mean this as an insult, but as a matter of incontrovertible fact: Atheists, Agnostics and other similar "fundie" religious fanatics, *choose* not to believe or have faith in the supernatural, our supersensory environs & experiences. Their affliction in the Sun, faith, or as "Melinda" excerpted the Bard of Avon, there's the rub. Thus are their souls made hideous, hellish and dragged down, having little faith, much less having faith of pure quality as a grain of mustard seed, etc. Unbelievers have no faith.
That said, I would strongly advise you to read only serious and authoritative books and articles, and to see interviews, documentaries, fiction, and non-fiction television shows on the subject. By serious I mean _profoundly_ gifted psychics, spirit mediums, and prophets. Psychics know first-hand what they are talking about. But Atheists don't know diddly squat, and that's how they'll die: in abject confusion and torment, everlasting shame & everlasting contempt, in outer darkness.
Because this is a deadly-serious subject, which is suitable only for deadly-serious people, or as Derek Acorah likes to say "childlike, NOT childish", seeing there is a difference, a very fundamental and profound Abyss fixed, between the two. The childlike elevating toward the right with God's good-will, with the Law of One, the dexterous. Whereas the childish are descending down to the left, the sinister children of Belial. The good-will practicing the Golden Rule & Ten Commandments. The damnable ill-will practicing rebellion against the same.
Therefore, look to the real authorities, the real people who actually see, hear, feel etc. spirit-people whether we still be among the living, i.e. temporally-incarnate in a physical body, else still among the physically-dead, either caught in Limbo, grounded in the hellish near-earth environs of the low- circles of Hell, else having entered the Light into Purgatory, sojourning there in the more heavenly vibrations & experiences of the Astral, Mental, Casual etc. bodies in visitation, else having since reincarnated being also sojourning in visitation, dreaming, daydreaming, lucid dreaming, astral projecting, etc.
Real people, like the authors of the books of the bible, many gifted 'Psychic Detective' psychics and spirit mediums, like David Wells, James Van Praagh, and the all-time greats Edgar Cayce, and the incomparable Dr. Michel Nostradamus, such were the greatest mortal authorities-incarnate by the immortal Gods who _is_ sole Authority: even as Jesus Christ is the Authority, the Center, the Focus, of God's infinite and eternal Universe.
That's why it is so important to consider the SOURCE. Ask, is it from the Universal Source which is in all cases perfectly good and reliable, unerring and infallible. Or is information from a more distant, or local, more personalized source, such being the case with your more "average" gifted spirit mediums, and your "average" ghosts-incarnate, and those many discarnate, as some channel by invitation, by welcome or demonic possession all mortal men having an ego in the house: the devil-incarnate which is ever ambitious, ever in danger of becoming the master rather than the lowly servant. Is the servant above his master? Thus is attention wisely taken off the self, and redirected to the other self in the house thereof, the exaltation of Saturn.
As a steadfast rule, the psychic's prime directive, the smart money is on the testimony of Jesus Christ, first and foremost. That's why I always compare what spirit mediums say with what the LORD says. Every time they agree, that spirit medium, that gifted psychic, gains precisely that much more credibility and respect. Conversely, wherever and whenever they disagree, then that Babylonian spirit medium tends toward confusion by mixing fact with fiction, truth with lies: Christ being fact and truth, Anti-Christs being dishonesty and lies. All mortal, vulnerable, fallible men being some degrees of both--some very much moreso than others, as human experience and history both honestly and dishonestly attests. I.e. much more the latter than the former.
E.g., recall what notorious Anti-Christian Atheist Friedrich Nietzsche noticed about staring into the Abyss, paraphrasing, that if you stare at it long enough, it begins to stare back at you! So true in fact, that only a humble, God-fearing soul could possibly know how true Nietzsche's witty observation is. As anyone who has dared even peek into the Dark Cloud can tell you, it is the infinite degree of terror, even the fear of God Almighty, the Dominant one of heaven Zeus aka Jupiter, Jehovah.
The point being, beware Greeks bearing gifts. Be conscientious that even the most gifted psychics, prophets, mediums etc. can be less than accurate, wrong even dead-wrong at times, whereas even the most viciously Anti-Christian Atheist can be right on the money at times (like the old broken clock analogy) to keep everyone humble in time, through the mobius loop of denial and anger. Then to meet vis-a-vis with the Grim Reaper seeing that there is *NO* bargaining with Satan's razor-sharp Scythe. Then through the dark night of the soul, into deep lunar depression whose infinite and eternal altitudes and depths only one grand King of terror unchained from the Abyss knows for sure, and is reaping the ripe harvest even as we speak, all the chaff being blown away afar off to the quadrangle of the earth. Eventually to the final resting place of acceptance moving into the Light, the whiteness of oblivion called "the bosom of Abraham", where the spiritually blind are made to see and the spiritually lame are made to walk, no longer merely glimpsing the enigma though the mirror of darkness, but vis-a-vis as to see even as we are seen, hear even as we are heard, and know even as we are known, to paraphrase the former antichrist made to see, blinded three days by his terrifying near-death experience with the Light in person. That's why I always say Atheists cannot be saved short of the Light Himself sucker punching them to death or so close to death that the terror is upon them. No Atheists in foxholes.
In summary, never dabble in the occult. The occult is not for dabblers, or the curious, or for anyone else who isn't deadly- serious about the subject matter. Like they say Fools rush in where angels fear to tread, vanity, vanities, where ignorance is bliss, etc. The bottom line is to Practice the Golden Rule & Ten Commandments, otherwise you'll open doors to people and places--Yea nightmares--you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy!
Thus it helps to have a good sense of humor, the divine comedy. And above all to be jovial: giving, forgiving and thanksgiving. That's the one thing Atheists are incapable of. Think about it...
To sleep, perchance to Dream.--William Shakespeare (1564-1616)
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Ghost-incarnate <nob...@4096.net> wrote: > On 21 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >This might be a silly question but here it goes.... > >I gave my wife the 1st season of Ghost Whisperer for Xmas, and she > >really liked it. She talked me into watching it, though I'd prefer to > >watch The Shield. I love ghost stories, I just didn't know if I'd like > >the GW. > >Anyway, Melinda on GW sees the ghosts as clearly as she sees normal > >people. I wonder if anyone in this newsgroup has that gift...i
No one has that gift, anywhere. The show is fiction. Anyone who claims to have this gift is a liar or insane.
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:03:07 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote: > In article <75c77c7fa4065026c7b7c0c099b32...@4096.net>, > Ghost-incarnate <nob...@4096.net> wrote:
> > On 21 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >This might be a silly question but here it goes.... > > >I gave my wife the 1st season of Ghost Whisperer for Xmas, and she > > >really liked it. She talked me into watching it, though I'd prefer to > > >watch The Shield. I love ghost stories, I just didn't know if I'd like > > >the GW. > > >Anyway, Melinda on GW sees the ghosts as clearly as she sees normal > > >people. I wonder if anyone in this newsgroup has that gift...i
> No one has that gift, anywhere. The show is fiction. Anyone who claims > to have this gift is a liar or insane.
Not necessarily "insane" so much as "mistaken about certain perceptual oddities". I'm one of those who sees things that aren't there, and they're often very ghost-like. I can cause myself to see things if I focus, including people, and can hold conversations with them and everything. It's amazing how lifelike some of these hallucinations act.
The difference is, I know they're just products of the mind. I know it's not the norm to be able to see dream-like imagery while fully awake, but I hardly consider myself "insane". Something's "not quite like everyone else's" upstairs, but I view it with a very rational, logical eye.
That's only because I'm a rational, logical person, though. It's VERY easy for me to see how someone with a little less logical sense to them could turn such an ability into "clairvoyance" or "ghosts" or whatnot. People who genuinely have these experiences and honestly believe they can do it - don't just instantly write them off as insane, that's a rather cruel thing to do. Outright frauds, yes, berate and belittle them to your heart's content, I couldn't care less. But the ones who believe it - I dunno', I guess because I could so -easily- have slipped down the slippery slope of superstition given the nature of my perceptions, I feel for them in some way. By and large such people do no harm, and sometimes their ability brings them joy and happiness. For those to whom the gift brings sorrow, well, I suppose there -is- medication that could stop it. I don't know, I've never really tried because for me, it's not a problem. It in no way, shape or form interferes with my functioning in the normal, daily world of the mundane.
Anim8rFSK wrote: > In article <75c77c7fa4065026c7b7c0c099b32...@4096.net>, > Ghost-incarnate <nob...@4096.net> wrote:
> > On 21 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >This might be a silly question but here it goes.... > > >I gave my wife the 1st season of Ghost Whisperer for Xmas, and she > > >really liked it. She talked me into watching it, though I'd prefer to > > >watch The Shield. I love ghost stories, I just didn't know if I'd like > > >the GW. > > >Anyway, Melinda on GW sees the ghosts as clearly as she sees normal > > >people. I wonder if anyone in this newsgroup has that gift...i
> No one has that gift, anywhere. The show is fiction. Anyone who claims > to have this gift is a liar or insane.
shizaru wrote: > Why would anyone that doesn't believe or even entertain the idea that > there may be supernatural phenomena bother to read this newsgroup?
>>> On 21 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> This might be a silly question but here it goes.... >>>> I gave my wife the 1st season of Ghost Whisperer for Xmas, and she >>>> really liked it. She talked me into watching it, though I'd prefer to >>>> watch The Shield. I love ghost stories, I just didn't know if I'd like >>>> the GW. >>>> Anyway, Melinda on GW sees the ghosts as clearly as she sees normal >>>> people. I wonder if anyone in this newsgroup has that gift...i >> No one has that gift, anywhere. The show is fiction. Anyone who claims >> to have this gift is a liar or insane.
On 22 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Why would anyone that doesn't believe or even entertain the idea that >there may be supernatural phenomena bother to read this newsgroup?
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Axioms like "old habits are hard to break" come first to mind, or "nothing new under the sun", etc. This is the ages-old War between the children who believe, and most importantly, those who _practice_, that true freedom and true responsibility walk hand-in-hand Universally, versus those who believe, and verily do _practice_, the diametric opposition being the enemy of God as devils who have called themselves Legion, for they are many.
The latter are today known as "Atheists", "Christians", "Jews", "Muslims", etc. as many who are bigoted and intolerant against freedom of speech and freedom of religion: the worldly, those ambitious for worldly power, worldly control, worldly success, and worldly recognition all at the cost of selling their souls to the devil-incarnate, or as M. Nostradamus called this fatal pathology "the people & city usurping them-selves", etc. They reject their divine freedom & responsibility as gods-incarnate, preferring the tight shackles of their draconian incarceration in and of the material world--their souls "asleep at the wheel".
Among the myriad common denominators between religious factions (those united star-crossed against Jesus Christ & his ekklesia) is their draconian aversion to free will & independent thought. They don't want you to ask questions, or think about things on your own. They just want you to follow them down into Hellfire. They want you to exchange truth for lies, facts for forgeries, courage for cowardice, morality for wickedness, life for death, heaven for hell, belief for unbelief, salvation for damnation, etc. And don't you *DARE* challenge their so-called "authority"! (And if they can't do it, by God, nobody else can do it either!)
These antichrists project their own anger and denial, their own fears and insecurity, their inexcusable ignorance and confusion, their own Rabidity, onto everything and everyone who they cannot possibly understand. They'll die that way. They cannot be saved. Like the now-extinct Hopi elders observed, "it's too late", too late for these rabid creatures to repent of their own free will, since they have long-since forsaken free will whereby to repent of their own volition. These do worship the image of the beast. And since these antichrists will not rule in rapturous concert with the Gods, that is why the Gods do assuredly overrule them.
The bible makes it clear these who have prospered and practiced, and magnified self (strong principal) exceedingly against Truth (who they crucified), will be utterly laid waste: *Exterminated* in the greatest worst tribulation ever to befall the fallen man. Unconsciously, they know this. But because they have long-since blocked off their mortal consciousness of their immortal psyche, even the superconscious, supersenses, & all things supernatural, thus they march in lockstep, like lemmings leaping en masse off the White Cliffs of Dover to drown and sink down into the Abyss where the real _terror_ awaits. Like GW Bush said, "pity them".
Both opposing forces have had many centuries, some two hundred mundane millennia, of practice, after all: approaching what is known as Armageddon, the armies congregating together to battle toward the great day of the omnipotent Gods, to paraphrase the English translation of the Latin translation of the Apocalypse.
In summary, antichrists *HATE* freedom of speech and freedom of religion, particularly the divine kind that walks hand-in-hand with divine responsibility. Apparently, these antichrists want to burn in Hellfire: their familiar home away from home, their familiar prison away from prison. Antichrists just hate freedom in general. That's why they read in these groups and constantly protest in vain against freedom of speech & freedom of religion, all VERY much to their own detriment: consigning their souls to the pit "where the woodbine twineth, and the iceman cometh not".
Ghost-incarnate wrote: > On 22 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Why would anyone that doesn't believe or even entertain the idea that > >there may be supernatural phenomena bother to read this newsgroup?
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> Axioms like "old habits are hard to break" come first to mind, > or "nothing new under the sun", etc. This is the ages-old War > between the children who believe, and most importantly, those > who _practice_, that true freedom and true responsibility walk > hand-in-hand Universally, versus those who believe, and verily > do _practice_, the diametric opposition being the enemy of God > as devils who have called themselves Legion, for they are many.
> The latter are today known as "Atheists", "Christians", "Jews", > "Muslims", etc. as many who are bigoted and intolerant against > freedom of speech and freedom of religion: the worldly, those > ambitious for worldly power, worldly control, worldly success, > and worldly recognition all at the cost of selling their souls > to the devil-incarnate, or as M. Nostradamus called this fatal > pathology "the people & city usurping them-selves", etc. They > reject their divine freedom & responsibility as gods-incarnate, > preferring the tight shackles of their draconian incarceration > in and of the material world--their souls "asleep at the wheel".
> Among the myriad common denominators between religious factions > (those united star-crossed against Jesus Christ & his ekklesia) > is their draconian aversion to free will & independent thought. > They don't want you to ask questions, or think about things on > your own. They just want you to follow them down into Hellfire. > They want you to exchange truth for lies, facts for forgeries, > courage for cowardice, morality for wickedness, life for death, > heaven for hell, belief for unbelief, salvation for damnation, > etc. And don't you *DARE* challenge their so-called "authority"! > (And if they can't do it, by God, nobody else can do it either!)
> These antichrists project their own anger and denial, their own > fears and insecurity, their inexcusable ignorance and confusion, > their own Rabidity, onto everything and everyone who they cannot > possibly understand. They'll die that way. They cannot be saved. > Like the now-extinct Hopi elders observed, "it's too late", too > late for these rabid creatures to repent of their own free will, > since they have long-since forsaken free will whereby to repent > of their own volition. These do worship the image of the beast. > And since these antichrists will not rule in rapturous concert > with the Gods, that is why the Gods do assuredly overrule them.
> The bible makes it clear these who have prospered and practiced, > and magnified self (strong principal) exceedingly against Truth > (who they crucified), will be utterly laid waste: *Exterminated* > in the greatest worst tribulation ever to befall the fallen man. > Unconsciously, they know this. But because they have long-since > blocked off their mortal consciousness of their immortal psyche, > even the superconscious, supersenses, & all things supernatural, > thus they march in lockstep, like lemmings leaping en masse off > the White Cliffs of Dover to drown and sink down into the Abyss > where the real _terror_ awaits. Like GW Bush said, "pity them".
> Both opposing forces have had many centuries, some two hundred > mundane millennia, of practice, after all: approaching what is > known as Armageddon, the armies congregating together to battle > toward the great day of the omnipotent Gods, to paraphrase the > English translation of the Latin translation of the Apocalypse.
> In summary, antichrists *HATE* freedom of speech and freedom of > religion, particularly the divine kind that walks hand-in-hand > with divine responsibility. Apparently, these antichrists want > to burn in Hellfire: their familiar home away from home, their > familiar prison away from prison. Antichrists just hate freedom > in general. That's why they read in these groups and constantly > protest in vain against freedom of speech & freedom of religion, > all VERY much to their own detriment: consigning their souls to > the pit "where the woodbine twineth, and the iceman cometh not".
Ghost-incarnate wrote: > On 22 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> Why would anyone that doesn't believe or even entertain the idea that >> there may be supernatural phenomena bother to read this newsgroup?
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> Axioms like "old habits are hard to break" come first to mind, > or "nothing new under the sun", etc. This is the ages-old War > between the children who believe, and most importantly, those > who _practice_, that true freedom and true responsibility walk > hand-in-hand Universally, versus those who believe, and verily > do _practice_, the diametric opposition being the enemy of God > as devils who have called themselves Legion, for they are many.
> The latter are today known as "Atheists", "Christians", "Jews", > "Muslims", etc. as many who are bigoted and intolerant against > freedom of speech and freedom of religion: the worldly, those > ambitious for worldly power, worldly control, worldly success, > and worldly recognition all at the cost of selling their souls > to the devil-incarnate, or as M. Nostradamus called this fatal > pathology "the people & city usurping them-selves", etc. They > reject their divine freedom & responsibility as gods-incarnate, > preferring the tight shackles of their draconian incarceration > in and of the material world--their souls "asleep at the wheel".
> Among the myriad common denominators between religious factions > (those united star-crossed against Jesus Christ & his ekklesia) > is their draconian aversion to free will & independent thought. > They don't want you to ask questions, or think about things on > your own. They just want you to follow them down into Hellfire. > They want you to exchange truth for lies, facts for forgeries, > courage for cowardice, morality for wickedness, life for death, > heaven for hell, belief for unbelief, salvation for damnation, > etc. And don't you *DARE* challenge their so-called "authority"! > (And if they can't do it, by God, nobody else can do it either!)
> These antichrists project their own anger and denial, their own > fears and insecurity, their inexcusable ignorance and confusion, > their own Rabidity, onto everything and everyone who they cannot > possibly understand. They'll die that way. They cannot be saved. > Like the now-extinct Hopi elders observed, "it's too late", too > late for these rabid creatures to repent of their own free will, > since they have long-since forsaken free will whereby to repent > of their own volition. These do worship the image of the beast. > And since these antichrists will not rule in rapturous concert > with the Gods, that is why the Gods do assuredly overrule them.
> The bible makes it clear these who have prospered and practiced, > and magnified self (strong principal) exceedingly against Truth > (who they crucified), will be utterly laid waste: *Exterminated* > in the greatest worst tribulation ever to befall the fallen man. > Unconsciously, they know this. But because they have long-since > blocked off their mortal consciousness of their immortal psyche, > even the superconscious, supersenses, & all things supernatural, > thus they march in lockstep, like lemmings leaping en masse off > the White Cliffs of Dover to drown and sink down into the Abyss > where the real _terror_ awaits. Like GW Bush said, "pity them".
> Both opposing forces have had many centuries, some two hundred > mundane millennia, of practice, after all: approaching what is > known as Armageddon, the armies congregating together to battle > toward the great day of the omnipotent Gods, to paraphrase the > English translation of the Latin translation of the Apocalypse.
> In summary, antichrists *HATE* freedom of speech and freedom of > religion, particularly the divine kind that walks hand-in-hand > with divine responsibility. Apparently, these antichrists want > to burn in Hellfire: their familiar home away from home, their > familiar prison away from prison. Antichrists just hate freedom > in general. That's why they read in these groups and constantly > protest in vain against freedom of speech & freedom of religion, > all VERY much to their own detriment: consigning their souls to > the pit "where the woodbine twineth, and the iceman cometh not".
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Ghost-incarnate <nob...@4096.net> wrote: > On 22 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Why would anyone that doesn't believe or even entertain the idea that > >there may be supernatural phenomena bother to read this newsgroup?
>>> On 21 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> This might be a silly question but here it goes.... >>>> I gave my wife the 1st season of Ghost Whisperer for Xmas, and she >>>> really liked it. She talked me into watching it, though I'd prefer to >>>> watch The Shield. I love ghost stories, I just didn't know if I'd like >>>> the GW. >>>> Anyway, Melinda on GW sees the ghosts as clearly as she sees normal >>>> people. I wonder if anyone in this newsgroup has that gift...i >> No one has that gift, anywhere. The show is fiction. Anyone who claims >> to have this gift is a liar or insane.
> Why would anyone that doesn't believe or even entertain the idea that > there may be supernatural phenomena bother to read this newsgroup?
Because it was crossposted to rec.arts.tv which is where Anim8rFSK posted from. The crossposts have been removed, which is good. When I saw it posted on ratv, I thought it was better suited to the paranormal groups.
> It's crossposted to several groups. Look at the headers.
> shizaru wrote: >> Why would anyone that doesn't believe or even entertain the idea that >> there may be supernatural phenomena bother to read this newsgroup?
>>>> On 21 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> This might be a silly question but here it goes.... >>>>> I gave my wife the 1st season of Ghost Whisperer for Xmas, and she >>>>> really liked it. She talked me into watching it, though I'd prefer to >>>>> watch The Shield. I love ghost stories, I just didn't know if I'd like >>>>> the GW. >>>>> Anyway, Melinda on GW sees the ghosts as clearly as she sees normal >>>>> people. I wonder if anyone in this newsgroup has that gift...i >>> No one has that gift, anywhere. The show is fiction. Anyone who claims >>> to have this gift is a liar or insane.
I also have seen ghosts, this was where I lived. The man that owned the house previous to me died in the house from a bleeding ulcer. I saw him, a black cat a German Sheppard dog or coyotte and my cat that had died from old age(17). I saw my cat in the house several times and one time I followed her into the bathroom where she disappeared. I also see aura's around furniture and other objects including trees. Don't know if this is an eye problem or just because of consciousness. I also had Kundalini awakening several years ago, which causes your viberations to increase. I just recently watched Montel Williams show on Wednesdays and they have the famous psychic Sylvia Browne on and she see's them all the time. She also told that ghosts are around us all the time in what is the Astral Plane(where we go upon death) and the Earth Dimension and Astral Dimension are only seperated by higher viberations. Recommend you watch this program(not sure about the schedules in your areas), as I have learned a lot. Like there is no such thing as a Demon(this is a Hollywood thing). A real education about life on the other side, your guides, angels and etc.
Sally
"Ghost-incarnate" <nob...@4096.net> wrote in message
> On 21 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>This might be a silly question but here it goes.... >>I gave my wife the 1st season of Ghost Whisperer for Xmas, and she >>really liked it. She talked me into watching it, though I'd prefer to >>watch The Shield. I love ghost stories, I just didn't know if I'd like >>the GW. >>Anyway, Melinda on GW sees the ghosts as clearly as she sees normal >>people. I wonder if anyone in this newsgroup has that gift...if so do >>people that see ghosts see them that clearly. Are they able to have >>conversations like Melinda does with them? >>(Personally i think it would be very frightening to be able to see dead >>people all of the time unless I could somehow 'turn it off' at times >>so I wouldn't)
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> I was just thinking about this very subject this morning...
> Millions of people around the world and down through history > and prehistory have seen ghosts take many forms, human, and > inhuman, orbs, apparitions, odors, touching, tapping, sounds, > voices, breathing, poltergeists, warnings, etc. You name it, > it's a very common occurance. And like Edgar Cayce said, any > one can do it. Anyone can be psychic, clairvoyant, etc., and > anyone can be a ghost--a very adept ghost with much practice.
> Before continuing, be aware that the majority of people who > post in this group are antichrists who apparently read here > for the sole purpose of ineptly criticizing & ineffectively > mocking everything & everyone who their feeble brains can't > possibly comprehend. I don't mean this as an insult, but as > a matter of incontrovertible fact: Atheists, Agnostics and > other similar "fundie" religious fanatics, *choose* not to > believe or have faith in the supernatural, our supersensory > environs & experiences. Their affliction in the Sun, faith, > or as "Melinda" excerpted the Bard of Avon, there's the rub. > Thus are their souls made hideous, hellish and dragged down, > having little faith, much less having faith of pure quality > as a grain of mustard seed, etc. Unbelievers have no faith.
> That said, I would strongly advise you to read only serious > and authoritative books and articles, and to see interviews, > documentaries, fiction, and non-fiction television shows on > the subject. By serious I mean _profoundly_ gifted psychics, > spirit mediums, and prophets. Psychics know first-hand what > they are talking about. But Atheists don't know diddly squat, > and that's how they'll die: in abject confusion and torment, > everlasting shame & everlasting contempt, in outer darkness.
> Because this is a deadly-serious subject, which is suitable > only for deadly-serious people, or as Derek Acorah likes to > say "childlike, NOT childish", seeing there is a difference, > a very fundamental and profound Abyss fixed, between the two. > The childlike elevating toward the right with God's good-will, > with the Law of One, the dexterous. Whereas the childish are > descending down to the left, the sinister children of Belial. > The good-will practicing the Golden Rule & Ten Commandments. > The damnable ill-will practicing rebellion against the same.
> Therefore, look to the real authorities, the real people who > actually see, hear, feel etc. spirit-people whether we still > be among the living, i.e. temporally-incarnate in a physical > body, else still among the physically-dead, either caught in > Limbo, grounded in the hellish near-earth environs of the low- > circles of Hell, else having entered the Light into Purgatory, > sojourning there in the more heavenly vibrations & experiences > of the Astral, Mental, Casual etc. bodies in visitation, else > having since reincarnated being also sojourning in visitation, > dreaming, daydreaming, lucid dreaming, astral projecting, etc.
> Real people, like the authors of the books of the bible, many > gifted 'Psychic Detective' psychics and spirit mediums, like > David Wells, James Van Praagh, and the all-time greats Edgar > Cayce, and the incomparable Dr. Michel Nostradamus, such were > the greatest mortal authorities-incarnate by the immortal Gods > who _is_ sole Authority: even as Jesus Christ is the Authority, > the Center, the Focus, of God's infinite and eternal Universe.
> That's why it is so important to consider the SOURCE. Ask, is > it from the Universal Source which is in all cases perfectly > good and reliable, unerring and infallible. Or is information > from a more distant, or local, more personalized source, such > being the case with your more "average" gifted spirit mediums, > and your "average" ghosts-incarnate, and those many discarnate, > as some channel by invitation, by welcome or demonic possession > all mortal men having an ego in the house: the devil-incarnate > which is ever ambitious, ever in danger of becoming the master > rather than the lowly servant. Is the servant above his master? > Thus is attention wisely taken off the self, and redirected to > the other self in the house thereof, the exaltation of Saturn.
> As a steadfast rule, the psychic's prime directive, the smart > money is on the testimony of Jesus Christ, first and foremost. > That's why I always compare what spirit mediums say with what > the LORD says. Every time they agree, that spirit medium, that > gifted psychic, gains precisely that much more credibility and > respect. Conversely, wherever and whenever they disagree, then > that Babylonian spirit medium tends toward confusion by mixing > fact with fiction, truth with lies: Christ being fact and truth, > Anti-Christs being dishonesty and lies. All mortal, vulnerable, > fallible men being some degrees of both--some very much moreso > than others, as human experience and history both honestly and > dishonestly attests. I.e. much more the latter than the former.
> E.g., recall what notorious Anti-Christian Atheist Friedrich > Nietzsche noticed about staring into the Abyss, paraphrasing, > that if you stare at it long enough, it begins to stare back > at you! So true in fact, that only a humble, God-fearing soul > could possibly know how true Nietzsche's witty observation is. > As anyone who has dared even peek into the Dark Cloud can tell > you, it is the infinite degree of terror, even the fear of God > Almighty, the Dominant one of heaven Zeus aka Jupiter, Jehovah.
> The point being, beware Greeks bearing gifts. Be conscientious > that even the most gifted psychics, prophets, mediums etc. can > be less than accurate, wrong even dead-wrong at times, whereas > even the most viciously Anti-Christian Atheist can be right on > the money at times (like the old broken clock analogy) to keep > everyone humble in time, through the mobius loop of denial and > anger. Then to meet vis-a-vis with the Grim Reaper seeing that > there is *NO* bargaining with Satan's razor-sharp Scythe. Then > through the dark night of the soul, into deep lunar depression > whose infinite and eternal altitudes and depths only one grand > King of terror unchained from the Abyss knows for sure, and is > reaping the ripe harvest even as we speak, all the chaff being > blown away afar off to the quadrangle of the earth. Eventually > to the final resting place of acceptance moving into the Light, > the whiteness of oblivion called "the bosom of Abraham", where > the spiritually blind are made to see and the spiritually lame > are made to walk, no longer merely glimpsing the enigma though > the mirror of darkness, but vis-a-vis as to see even as we are > seen, hear even as we are heard, and know even as we are known, > to paraphrase the former antichrist made to see, blinded three > days by his terrifying near-death experience with the Light in > person. That's why I always say Atheists cannot be saved short > of the Light Himself sucker punching them to death or so close > to death that the terror is upon them. No Atheists in foxholes.
> In summary, never dabble in the occult. The occult is not for > dabblers, or the curious, or for anyone else who isn't deadly- > serious about the subject matter. Like they say Fools rush in > where angels fear to tread, vanity, vanities, where ignorance > is bliss, etc. The bottom line is to Practice the Golden Rule > & Ten Commandments, otherwise you'll open doors to people and > places--Yea nightmares--you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy!
> Thus it helps to have a good sense of humor, the divine comedy. > And above all to be jovial: giving, forgiving and thanksgiving. > That's the one thing Atheists are incapable of. Think about it...
In article <Lx0zh.22560$yx6.20...@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "Sally Short" <morningdov...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I also have seen ghosts,
no, you didn't Sally. Its fun to pretend though.
this was where I lived. The man that owned
> the house previous to me died in the house from a bleeding ulcer. I saw > him, a black cat a German Sheppard dog or coyotte and my cat that had died > from old age(17). I saw my cat in the house several times and one time I > followed her into the bathroom where she disappeared. I also see aura's > around furniture and other objects including trees. Don't know if this is > an eye problem or just because of consciousness. I also had Kundalini > awakening several years ago, which causes your viberations to increase.
What are 'viberations'?
> I just recently watched Montel Williams show on Wednesdays and they > have the famous psychic Sylvia Browne on and she see's them all the time.
No, she doesn't. She's a well known liar and fraud.
> She also told that ghosts are around us all the time in what is the Astral > Plane(where we go upon death) and the Earth Dimension and Astral Dimension > are only seperated by higher viberations. Recommend you watch this > program(not sure about the schedules in your areas), as I have learned a > lot.
Nope. You might try http://randi.org/ where you can read about despicable con artists like Browne. In fact, she's on the front page right now!
Like there is no such thing as a Demon(this is a Hollywood thing). A
> real education about life on the other side, your guides, angels and etc.
I don't think you can be 'educated' to imagine stuff?
> "Ghost-incarnate" <nob...@4096.net> wrote in message > news:75c77c7fa4065026c7b7c0c099b32f47@4096.net... > > On 21 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>This might be a silly question but here it goes.... > >>I gave my wife the 1st season of Ghost Whisperer for Xmas, and she > >>really liked it. She talked me into watching it, though I'd prefer to > >>watch The Shield. I love ghost stories, I just didn't know if I'd like > >>the GW. > >>Anyway, Melinda on GW sees the ghosts as clearly as she sees normal > >>people. I wonder if anyone in this newsgroup has that gift...if so do > >>people that see ghosts see them that clearly. Are they able to have > >>conversations like Melinda does with them? > >>(Personally i think it would be very frightening to be able to see dead > >>people all of the time unless I could somehow 'turn it off' at times > >>so I wouldn't)
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > I was just thinking about this very subject this morning...
> > Millions of people around the world and down through history > > and prehistory have seen ghosts take many forms, human, and > > inhuman, orbs, apparitions, odors, touching, tapping, sounds, > > voices, breathing, poltergeists, warnings, etc. You name it, > > it's a very common occurance. And like Edgar Cayce said, any > > one can do it. Anyone can be psychic, clairvoyant, etc., and > > anyone can be a ghost--a very adept ghost with much practice.
> > Before continuing, be aware that the majority of people who > > post in this group are antichrists who apparently read here > > for the sole purpose of ineptly criticizing & ineffectively > > mocking everything & everyone who their feeble brains can't > > possibly comprehend. I don't mean this as an insult, but as > > a matter of incontrovertible fact: Atheists, Agnostics and > > other similar "fundie" religious fanatics, *choose* not to > > believe or have faith in the supernatural, our supersensory > > environs & experiences. Their affliction in the Sun, faith, > > or as "Melinda" excerpted the Bard of Avon, there's the rub. > > Thus are their souls made hideous, hellish and dragged down, > > having little faith, much less having faith of pure quality > > as a grain of mustard seed, etc. Unbelievers have no faith.
> > That said, I would strongly advise you to read only serious > > and authoritative books and articles, and to see interviews, > > documentaries, fiction, and non-fiction television shows on > > the subject. By serious I mean _profoundly_ gifted psychics, > > spirit mediums, and prophets. Psychics know first-hand what > > they are talking about. But Atheists don't know diddly squat, > > and that's how they'll die: in abject confusion and torment, > > everlasting shame & everlasting contempt, in outer darkness.
> > Because this is a deadly-serious subject, which is suitable > > only for deadly-serious people, or as Derek Acorah likes to > > say "childlike, NOT childish", seeing there is a difference, > > a very fundamental and profound Abyss fixed, between the two. > > The childlike elevating toward the right with God's good-will, > > with the Law of One, the dexterous. Whereas the childish are > > descending down to the left, the sinister children of Belial. > > The good-will practicing the Golden Rule & Ten Commandments. > > The damnable ill-will practicing rebellion against the same.
> > Therefore, look to the real authorities, the real people who > > actually see, hear, feel etc. spirit-people whether we still > > be among the living, i.e. temporally-incarnate in a physical > > body, else still among the physically-dead, either caught in > > Limbo, grounded in the hellish near-earth environs of the low- > > circles of Hell, else having entered the Light into Purgatory, > > sojourning there in the more heavenly vibrations & experiences > > of the Astral, Mental, Casual etc. bodies in visitation, else > > having since reincarnated being also sojourning in visitation, > > dreaming, daydreaming, lucid dreaming, astral projecting, etc.
> > Real people, like the authors of the books of the bible, many > > gifted 'Psychic Detective' psychics and spirit mediums, like > > David Wells, James Van Praagh, and the all-time greats Edgar > > Cayce, and the incomparable Dr. Michel Nostradamus, such were > > the greatest mortal authorities-incarnate by the immortal Gods > > who _is_ sole Authority: even as Jesus Christ is the Authority, > > the Center, the Focus, of God's infinite and eternal Universe.
> > That's why it is so important to consider the SOURCE. Ask, is > > it from the Universal Source which is in all cases perfectly > > good and reliable, unerring and infallible. Or is information > > from a more distant, or local, more personalized source, such > > being the case with your more "average" gifted spirit mediums, > > and your "average" ghosts-incarnate, and those many discarnate, > > as some channel by invitation, by welcome or demonic possession > > all mortal men having an ego in the house: the devil-incarnate > > which is ever ambitious, ever in danger of becoming the master > > rather than the lowly servant. Is the servant above his master? > > Thus is attention wisely taken off the self, and redirected to > > the other self in the house thereof, the exaltation of Saturn.
> > As a steadfast rule, the psychic's prime directive, the smart > > money is on the testimony of Jesus Christ, first and foremost. > > That's why I always compare what spirit mediums say with what > > the LORD says. Every time they agree, that spirit medium, that > > gifted psychic, gains precisely that much more credibility and > > respect. Conversely, wherever and whenever they disagree, then > > that Babylonian spirit medium tends toward confusion by mixing > > fact with fiction, truth with lies: Christ being fact and truth, > > Anti-Christs being dishonesty and lies. All mortal, vulnerable, > > fallible men being some degrees of both--some very much moreso > > than others, as human experience and history both honestly and > > dishonestly attests. I.e. much more the latter than the former.
> > E.g., recall what notorious Anti-Christian Atheist Friedrich > > Nietzsche noticed about staring into the Abyss, paraphrasing, > > that if you stare at it long enough, it begins to stare back > > at you! So true in fact, that only a humble, God-fearing soul > > could possibly know how true Nietzsche's witty observation is. > > As anyone who has dared even peek into the Dark Cloud can tell > > you, it is the infinite degree of terror, even the fear of God > > Almighty, the Dominant one of heaven Zeus aka Jupiter, Jehovah.
> > The point being, beware Greeks bearing gifts. Be conscientious > > that even the most gifted psychics, prophets, mediums etc. can > > be less than accurate, wrong even dead-wrong at times, whereas > > even the most viciously Anti-Christian Atheist can be right on > > the money at times (like the old broken clock analogy) to keep > > everyone humble in time, through the mobius loop of denial and > > anger. Then to meet vis-a-vis with the Grim Reaper seeing that > > there is *NO* bargaining with Satan's razor-sharp Scythe. Then > > through the dark night of the soul, into deep lunar depression > > whose infinite and eternal altitudes and depths only one grand > > King of terror unchained from the Abyss knows for sure, and is > > reaping the ripe harvest even as we speak, all the chaff being > > blown away afar off to the quadrangle of the earth. Eventually > > to the final resting place of acceptance moving into the Light, > > the whiteness of oblivion called "the bosom of Abraham", where > > the spiritually blind are made to see and the spiritually lame > > are made to walk, no longer merely glimpsing the enigma though > > the mirror of darkness, but vis-a-vis as to see even as we are > > seen, hear even as we are heard, and know even as we are known, > > to paraphrase the former antichrist made to see, blinded three > > days by his terrifying near-death experience with the Light in > > person. That's why I always say Atheists cannot be saved short
> I also have seen ghosts, this was where I lived. The man that owned > the house previous to me died in the house from a bleeding ulcer. I saw > him, a black cat a German Sheppard dog or coyotte and my cat that had died > from old age(17). I saw my cat in the house several times and one time I > followed her into the bathroom where she disappeared. I also see aura's > around furniture and other objects including trees. Don't know if this > is an eye problem or just because of consciousness.
The human brain truly is an amazing thing.
> I also had Kundalini awakening several years ago, which causes your > viberations to increase.
"Sally Short" <morningdov...@earthlink.net> wrote: > I saw my cat in the house several times and one time I followed > her into the bathroom where she disappeared.
I love that old "disappearing cat" trick. ;-)
> I also see aura's around furniture and other objects including > trees. Don't know if this is an eye problem or just because of > consciousness.
I've always seen the same thing, especially when moving past an object. Treetops especially - if you let your eyes stare at some fixed, distant point while your body is moving past something - especially if you are in a moving vehicle (and preferrably not driving at the moment) - these "auras" become markedly pronounced. They seem to be visual artifcats that are particularly visible in "corners" or along the edges where a line or another point juts outward from the otherwise flat surface.
I used to think they were the metaphysical kind of auras. They may well be, I don't know, but these days I really rather -do- think they're probably just artifacts of the way we see. Optical illusions, in other words, very similar to certain other such illusions. Such as the one with the grid of black squares in which you can see black dots at the intersections of all the white lines - it seems -very- much like that illusion. Not that I'd be vehemently dead-set against interpretting them as metaphysical in nature, of course - it would be nice to think of that being the case.
I know an associated trait that seems connected to this visual phenomenon is the ability to form images in front of even open eyes. There's like this electrical "fog" of sorts everywhere - it's a visual field of sorts. I've been able to pay attention to it as I fall asleep - it is the exact "visual field" in which dreams emerge. It's easy to form images in it while fully awake - like lucid dreams - only they're generally much less vivid. I've also been able to expand that particular visual field so that I can see and produce imagery and colors (often of the geometric variety remeniscent of LSD, which I've never done) well beyond the normal periphery. I'm getting to the point where when I close my eyes and relax, I can see in just about 360 degrees - it's all imaginary, of course, except the experience of 360 degrees of vision is just as it would be had I eyes all around my head.
When we sleep and dream, our dreamer's eyes can cross and see two of the scene just as our bodily eyes can do when we're awake. Another thing I've managed to do in that dreaming or semi-dreaming state is produce more than just two overlapping fields of vision. I've managed to produce 5 already, so the experience is like having 5 movable eyes - but then after very short order, each field of vision tends to begin displaying a different scene. So its like seeing from two different bodies in two different places. It's also very hard to maintain anything more than 3 overlapping fields of vision, almost impossible to maintain more than 4 for more than a split second. But the effect over the years has been that I can see "elsewhere" even when fully awake - it's not true clairvoyance, of course, it would never pass the test for such. The other scene is purely of the imagination - just like a dream. But it's quite fascinating to play with just the same.
As someone else said, the human brain is truly an amazing thing. :-) And this would be true no matter what worldview one subscribes to. :-)
> "Sally Short" <morningdov...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:Lx0zh.22560$yx6.20984@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > I also have seen ghosts, this was where I lived. The man that owned > > the house previous to me died in the house from a bleeding ulcer. I saw > > him, a black cat a German Sheppard dog or coyotte and my cat that had died > > from old age(17). I saw my cat in the house several times and one time I > > followed her into the bathroom where she disappeared. I also see aura's > > around furniture and other objects including trees. Don't know if this > > is an eye problem or just because of consciousness.
> The human brain truly is an amazing thing.
> > I also had Kundalini awakening several years ago, which causes your > > viberations to increase.
Michael Crichton wrote a book called Travels. In one section he talks about visiting a psychics, in another section going on a 2 week conference at the institute for mental physics. His unbiased and sometimes grudging findings are very interesting.
> In article <5cWdnaiEw-F8bFDYnZ2dnUVZ_o-kn...@comcast.com>, > "Victor Velazquez" <victhr...@notnow.com> wrote:
>> "Sally Short" <morningdov...@earthlink.net> wrote in message >> news:Lx0zh.22560$yx6.20984@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> > I also have seen ghosts, this was where I lived. The man that >> > owned >> > the house previous to me died in the house from a bleeding ulcer. I >> > saw >> > him, a black cat a German Sheppard dog or coyotte and my cat that had >> > died >> > from old age(17). I saw my cat in the house several times and one time >> > I >> > followed her into the bathroom where she disappeared. I also see >> > aura's >> > around furniture and other objects including trees. Don't know if >> > this >> > is an eye problem or just because of consciousness.
>> The human brain truly is an amazing thing.
>> > I also had Kundalini awakening several years ago, which causes your >> > viberations to increase.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:39:59 -0500, Anotheramy wrote: > Michael Crichton wrote a book called Travels. In one section he talks > about visiting a psychics, in another section going on a 2 week conference > at the institute for mental physics. His unbiased and sometimes grudging > findings are very interesting.
How did I miss a Michael Crichton book that delves into the paranormal?!? I've read quite a few of his other books (though I make a point of NOT reading Jurassic Park 2 or 3).
the Aloha Spirit <aloha_spirit_1893@ya_SPOOKY_hoo.com> writes:
[Michael Crichton]
> I've read quite a few of his other books (though I make a point > of NOT reading Jurassic Park 2 or 3).
Jurassic Park 2 (_The Lost World_) was a good read, I thought, about on a par with the first book. I didn't know there was a third one.
I read it before I saw the movie, and I was struck by how the film was PC-ified: the main character's illegitimate daughter was black. There was no mention of that in the novel. Same with the Samuel L. Jackson character in the first film. Spiel- berg never seems to overlook an opportunity to engage in a bit of liberal social engineering.
Geoff
-- "To sustain a charge of hypocrisy you cannot accuse a liberal of operating a prostitution ring; you have to accuse him of failing to pay the minimum wage." -- Dinesh D'Souza
> On 21 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >This might be a silly question but here it goes.... > >I gave my wife the 1st season of Ghost Whisperer for Xmas, and she > >really liked it. She talked me into watching it, though I'd prefer to > >watch The Shield. I love ghost stories, I just didn't know if I'd like > >the GW. > >Anyway, Melinda on GW sees the ghosts as clearly as she sees normal > >people. I wonder if anyone in this newsgroup has that gift...if so do > >people that see ghosts see them that clearly. Are they able to have > >conversations like Melinda does with them? > >(Personally i think it would be very frightening to be able to see dead > >people all of the time unless I could somehow 'turn it off' at times > >so I wouldn't)
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> I was just thinking about this very subject this morning...
> Millions of people around the world and down through history > and prehistory have seen ghosts take many forms, human, and > inhuman, orbs, apparitions, odors, touching, tapping, sounds, > voices, breathing, poltergeists, warnings, etc. You name it, > it's a very common occurance. And like Edgar Cayce said, any > one can do it. Anyone can be psychic, clairvoyant, etc., and > anyone can be a ghost--a very adept ghost with much practice.
> Before continuing, be aware that the majority of people who > post in this group are antichrists who apparently read here > for the sole purpose of ineptly criticizing & ineffectively > mocking everything & everyone who their feeble brains can't > possibly comprehend. I don't mean this as an insult, but as > a matter of incontrovertible fact: Atheists, Agnostics and > other similar "fundie" religious fanatics, *choose* not to > believe or have faith in the supernatural, our supersensory > environs & experiences. Their affliction in the Sun, faith, > or as "Melinda" excerpted the Bard of Avon, there's the rub. > Thus are their souls made hideous, hellish and dragged down, > having little faith, much less having faith of pure quality > as a grain of mustard seed, etc. Unbelievers have no faith.
> That said, I would strongly advise you to read only serious > and authoritative books and articles, and to see interviews, > documentaries, fiction, and non-fiction television shows on > the subject. By serious I mean _profoundly_ gifted psychics, > spirit mediums, and prophets. Psychics know first-hand what > they are talking about. But Atheists don't know diddly squat, > and that's how they'll die: in abject confusion and torment, > everlasting shame & everlasting contempt, in outer darkness.
> Because this is a deadly-serious subject, which is suitable > only for deadly-serious people, or as Derek Acorah likes to > say "childlike, NOT childish", seeing there is a difference, > a very fundamental and profound Abyss fixed, between the two. > The childlike elevating toward the right with God's good-will, > with the Law of One, the dexterous. Whereas the childish are > descending down to the left, the sinister children of Belial. > The good-will practicing the Golden Rule & Ten Commandments. > The damnable ill-will practicing rebellion against the same.
> Therefore, look to the real authorities, the real people who > actually see, hear, feel etc. spirit-people whether we still > be among the living, i.e. temporally-incarnate in a physical > body, else still among the physically-dead, either caught in > Limbo, grounded in the hellish near-earth environs of the low- > circles of Hell, else having entered the Light into Purgatory, > sojourning there in the more heavenly vibrations & experiences > of the Astral, Mental, Casual etc. bodies in visitation, else > having since reincarnated being also sojourning in visitation, > dreaming, daydreaming, lucid dreaming, astral projecting, etc.
> Real people, like the authors of the books of the bible, many > gifted 'Psychic Detective' psychics and spirit mediums, like > David Wells, James Van Praagh, and the all-time greats Edgar > Cayce, and the incomparable Dr. Michel Nostradamus, such were > the greatest mortal authorities-incarnate by the immortal Gods > who _is_ sole Authority: even as Jesus Christ is the Authority, > the Center, the Focus, of God's infinite and eternal Universe.
> That's why it is so important to consider the SOURCE. Ask, is > it from the Universal Source which is in all cases perfectly > good and reliable, unerring and infallible. Or is information > from a more distant, or local, more personalized source, such > being the case with your more "average" gifted spirit mediums, > and your "average" ghosts-incarnate, and those many discarnate, > as some channel by invitation, by welcome or demonic possession > all mortal men having an ego in the house: the devil-incarnate > which is ever ambitious, ever in danger of becoming the master > rather than the lowly servant. Is the servant above his master? > Thus is attention wisely taken off the self, and redirected to > the other self in the house thereof, the exaltation of Saturn.
> As a steadfast rule, the psychic's prime directive, the smart > money is on the testimony of Jesus Christ, first and foremost. > That's why I always compare what spirit mediums say with what > the LORD says. Every time they agree, that spirit medium, that > gifted psychic, gains precisely that much more credibility and > respect. Conversely, wherever and whenever they disagree, then > that Babylonian spirit medium tends toward confusion by mixing > fact with fiction, truth with lies: Christ being fact and truth, > Anti-Christs being dishonesty and lies. All mortal, vulnerable, > fallible men being some degrees of both--some very much moreso > than others, as human experience and history both honestly and > dishonestly attests. I.e. much more the latter than the former.
> E.g., recall what notorious Anti-Christian Atheist Friedrich > Nietzsche noticed about staring into the Abyss, paraphrasing, > that if you stare at it long enough, it begins to stare back > at you! So true in fact, that only a humble, God-fearing soul > could possibly know how true Nietzsche's witty observation is. > As anyone who has dared even peek into the Dark Cloud can tell > you, it is the infinite degree of terror, even the fear of God > Almighty, the Dominant one of heaven Zeus aka Jupiter, Jehovah.
> The point being, beware Greeks bearing gifts. Be conscientious > that even the most gifted psychics, prophets, mediums etc. can > be less than accurate, wrong even dead-wrong at times, whereas > even the most viciously Anti-Christian Atheist can be right on > the money at times (like the old broken clock analogy) to keep > everyone humble in time, through the mobius loop of denial and > anger. Then to meet vis-a-vis with the Grim Reaper seeing that > there is *NO* bargaining with Satan's razor-sharp Scythe. Then > through the dark night of the soul, into deep lunar depression > whose infinite and eternal altitudes and depths only one grand > King of terror unchained from the Abyss knows for sure, and is > reaping the ripe harvest even as we speak, all the chaff being > blown away afar off to the quadrangle of the earth. Eventually > to the final resting place of acceptance moving into the Light, > the whiteness of oblivion called "the bosom of Abraham", where > the spiritually blind are made to see and the spiritually lame > are made to walk, no longer merely glimpsing the enigma though > the mirror of darkness, but vis-a-vis as to see even as we are > seen, hear even as we are heard, and know even as we are known, > to paraphrase the former antichrist made to see, blinded three > days by his terrifying near-death experience with the Light in > person. That's why I always say Atheists cannot be saved short > of the Light Himself sucker punching them to death or so close > to death that the terror is upon them. No Atheists in foxholes.
> In summary, never dabble in the occult. The occult is not for > dabblers, or the curious, or for anyone else who isn't deadly- > serious about the subject matter. Like they say Fools rush in > where angels fear to tread, vanity, vanities, where ignorance > is bliss, etc. The bottom line is to Practice the Golden Rule > & Ten Commandments, otherwise you'll open doors to people and > places--Yea nightmares--you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy!
> Thus it helps to have a good sense of humor, the divine comedy. > And above all to be jovial: giving, forgiving and thanksgiving. > That's the one thing Atheists are incapable of. Think about it...
> To sleep, perchance to Dream.--William Shakespeare (1564-1616)
On Jan 21, 5:03 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <75c77c7fa4065026c7b7c0c099b32...@4096.net>,
> Ghost-incarnate <nob...@4096.net> wrote: > > On 21 Jan 2007, "shizaru" <shiz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >This might be a silly question but here it goes.... > > >I gave my wife the 1st season of Ghost Whisperer for Xmas, and she > > >really liked it. She talked me into watching it, though I'd prefer to > > >watch The Shield. I love ghost stories, I just didn't know if I'd like > > >the GW. > > >Anyway, Melinda on GW sees the ghosts as clearly as she sees normal > > >people. I wonder if anyone in this newsgroup has that gift...i
> No one has that gift, anywhere. The show is fiction. Anyone who claims > to have this gift is a liar or insane.
Ghosts are demons, and I've only seen one once. It was actually a flying black shadow. It counts. I'm sensitve to the Spirit World and normally I FEEL, but don't see demons. However, I have aunts who've seen numerous amounts of demons and angels. My mom told me once when I was a child that I saw a "monster" in my room and told people not to go in it. I don't recall any of it, but what I do know is that children, I'm assuming because of their vulnerability, are easy to see things not of this world. Sometimes they see demons (often disguised as Imaginary Friends or Monsters Under The Bed etc.).
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